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Mr A Lillies Delusions


H P Blavatsky


[From Light, 1884.]


H P Blavatsky robustly defends herself against allegations that she had never visited Tibet and that Master Koot Hoomi did not exist.



I WRITE to rectify the many mistakes—if they are, indeed, only “mistakes”—in

Mr. Lillie’s last letter that appeared in Light of August 2nd, in answer to the

Observations on his pamphlet by the President of the London Lodge.


I. This letter, in which the author of Buddha and Early Buddhism proposed

to Consider briefly some of the notable omissions made in the “Observations,’

begins with two most notable assertions concerning myself, which are entirely

false, and which the author had not the slightest right to make. He says:


For fourteen years (1860 to 1874) Madame Blavatsky was all avowed

Spiritualist, controlled by a spirit called “John King” ... she attended many



But this would hardly prove anyone to be a Spiritualist, and, more over, all

these assertions are entirely false. I say the word and under line it, for the

facts in them are distorted, and made to fit a preconceived and very erroneous

notion, started first by the Spiritualists, whose interest it is to advocate

“spirits” pure and simple, and to kill, if they can, which is rather doubtful,

belief in the wisdom, if not in the very existence, of our revered Masters.


Though I do not at all feel bound to unbosom my private life to Mr. Arthur

Lillie, nor do I recognize in him the right of demanding it, yet out of respect

to a few Spiritualists whom I esteem and honour, I would set them right once for

all on the subject. As that period of my life (1873-1879) in America, with all

its spiritual transactions, will be given very soon in a new book called Madame

Blavatsky, published by friends, and one which I trust will settle, once and for

ever, the many wild and unfounded stories told of me, I will briefly state only

the following.


The unwarranted assumption mentioned above is very loosely based

 on one single document, namely, Colonel Olcott’s People from the other World. As this book was written partly before, and partly after, my first acquaintance with Colonel Olcott, and as he was a Spiritualist, which he has never denied, I am not responsible for his views of me and my “power” at that time.


He wrote what he then thought the whole truth, honestly and sincerely; and as I had a determined object in view, I did not seek to disabuse him too rudely of his

dreams. It was only after the formation of the Theosophical Society in 1875,

that he learned the whole truth. I defy anyone, after that period, to find one

word from his pen that would corroborate his early views on the nature of my

supposed “mediumship.” But even then, when writing of me in his book, he states distinctly the following:


Her mediumship is totally different from that of any other person I ever

met, for instead of being controlled by spirits to do their will, it is she who

seems to control them to do her bidding.


Strange “mediumship,” one that resembled in no way any that even Colonel

Olcott—a Spiritualist of thirty years’ standing—had ever met with! But when

Colonel Olcott says in his book (p. 453) that instead of being controlled by, it

is I who control the so-called spirits, he is yet made to say by Mr. Lillie, who

refers the public to Colonel Olcott’s book, that is I who was controlled! Is

this a misstatement and a misquotation, I ask, or is it not?


Again, it is stated by Mr. Lillie that I conversed with this “spirit” (John

King) during fourteen years, “constantly in India and else where.” To begin

with, I here assert that I had never heard the name of “John King” before 1873.

True it is, I had told Colonel Olcott and many others that the form of a man,

with a dark pale face, black beard, and white flowing garments and fettah, that

some of them had met about the house and my rooms, was that of a “John King.” I had given him that name for reasons that will be fully explained very soon, and I laughed heartily at the easy way the astral body of a living man could be mistaken for, and accepted as, a spirit. And I had told them that I had known

that “John” since 1860; for it was the form of an Eastern Adept, who has since

gone for his final initiation, passing through and visiting us in his living

body on his way, at Bombay.


Whether Messrs. Lillie and Co. believe the statement or not, I care very little, as Colonel Olcott and other friends know it now to be the true one. I have known and conversed with many a “John King” in my life—a generic name for more than one spook—but, thank heaven,I was never yet “controlled” by one! My rnedium-ship has been crushed out of me a quarter of a century or more; and I defy loudly all the “spirits” of the Kâma Loka to approach—let alone to control me—now. Surely it is Mr. Arthur Lillie who must be “controlled” by some one to make untruthful statements which can be so easily refuted as this one.


2. Mr. Lillie asks for Information about the seven years’ initiation of Madame Blavatsky.


The humble individual of this name has never heard of such an initiation.

With that accuracy in the explanation of Esoteric terms that so preeminently

characterizes the author of Buddha and Early Buddhism, the word may be intended for ‘‘instruction”? If so, then I should be quite justified in first asking Mr. Lillie what right he has to cross-examine me. But since he chooses to take such liberties with my name, I will tell him plainly that he himself knows nothing,

not merely of initiations and Tibet, but even of exoteric—let alone Esoteric—Buddhism. What he pretends to know about Lamaism he has picked tip from the hazy information of travellers, who, having forced them selves into the

borderland of Tibet, pretend on that account to know all that is within the

country closed for centuries to the average traveller. Even Csomo de Koros knew very little of the real gyelukpas and Esoteric Lamaism, except what he was

permitted to know, for he never went beyond Zanskar and the lamasery of

Phagdal—erroneously spelt by those who pretend to know all about Tibet, Pugdal which is incorrect, just because there are no meaning-less names in Tibet’, as Mr. Lillie has been taught to say. And I will tell him also that I have lived at different periods in Little Tibet as well as in Great Tibet, and that these

combined periods form more than seven years.


Yet I have never stated either verbally or over my signature that I had passed seven consecutive years in a convent. What I have said, and repeat now,

is that I have stopped in Lamaistic convents; that I have visited Tzi-gadze, the

Teshu Hlumpo territory anti its neighbour hood, and that I have been further

into, and have visited such places of Tibet as have never been visited by other

Europeans, and such as he can never hope to visit.


Mr. Lillie had no right to expect more “ample details” in Mr. Finch’s

pamphlet. Mr. Finch is an honourable man, who speaks of the private life of a

person only so far as that person permits him. My friends and those whom I

respect and for whose opinion I care, have ample evidence—from my family for instance—that I have been in Tibet, and this is all I care for.


As to—The names, perhaps, of three or four ... English [ Anglo-Indian] officials, who would certify to having seen me when I passed, I am afraid their vigilance would not be found at the height of their trustworthiness. Only two years back, as I can prove by numerous witnesses, when journeying from Chandernagore to Darjeeling, instead of proceeding to it direct, I left the train half-way, was met by friends with a conveyance, and passed with them into the territory of Sikkhim where I found my Master and Mahâtmâ Kuthumi. Thence I went five miles across the old border land of Tibet.


Upon my return, five days later, to Darjeeling, I received a kind note from

the Deputy Commissioner. It notified me in the politest of terms that, having

heard of my intention of going over to Tibet, the government could not allow me

to proceed there before I had received permission to that effect from Simla, nor

could it accept the responsibility of my safety, The Râjah of Sikkhim being very averse to allow travellers on his territory, etc.


This I would call shutting the stable-door when the steed is stolen. Nor had

the very “trustworthy” official even heard that a month before Mr. Sinnett had

kindly procured for me permission, since I went to Sikkhim but for a few days,

and no farther than the old Tibetan borderland. The question is not whether the

Anglo-Indian Government will or will not grant such permission, but whether the

Tibetans will let one cross their territory. Of the latter, I am sure any day. I

invite Mr. Lillie to try the same. He may at the same time study with profit

geography, and ascertain that there are other routes than those laid down into

Tibet, besides via “English officials.” He tries his best to make me out, in

plain words, a liar. He will find it even more difficult than to disprove that

he knows nothing of either Tibet or Buddhism or our “Byang Tisubs.”


 I will surely never lose my time in showing that his accusations against

One, Whom no insult of his can reach, are perfectly worthless. There are numbers of men quite as intelligent as he believes himself to be, whose opinion of our Mahâtmâs’ letters is the reverse of his. He can “suppose” that the authorities by him cited knew more about Tibet than our Masters; others think they do not; and the thousand and one blunders of his Buddha and Early Buddhism show us what these authorities are worth when trusted literally. As to his trying to insinuate that there is no Mahâtmâ Kuthumi at all, the idea alone is absurd. He will have to dispose, before he does anything more, of a certain lady in Russia, whose truthfulness and impartiality no one who knows her would ever presume to question, who received a letter from that Master so far back as 1870. Perchance a forgery also?


As to my having been in Tibet, at Mahâtmâ Kuthumi's  house, I have better

proof in store—when I believe it needed—than Mr. Lillie’s rancorous ingenuity

will ever be able to make away with.


If the teachings of Mr. Sinnett’s Esoteric Buddhism are considered atheistic, then I am an atheist too. And yet I would not deny what I wrote in Isis, as quoted by Mr. Finch. If Mr. Lillie knows no difference between an

anthropomorphic extra-cosmic God, and the Divine Essence of the Advaitis and

other Esotericists, then, I must only lose a little more of my respect for the

R. A. S. in which he claims membership; and it may justify the more our

assertions that there is more knowledge in “Bâbu (?) Subba Row’s” solitary head than in dozens of the heads of “Orientalists” about London we know of.


The same with regard to the Master’s name. If Mr. Lillie tells us that “Kuthumi ” is not a Tibetan name, we answer that we never claimed it to be one. Everyone knows that the Master is a Punjabi, whose family was settled for years in Cashmere.


But if he tells us that an expert at the British Museum ransacked the Tibetan

dictionary for the words “Kut” and “Humi,” “and found no such words,” then I

say: Buy a better dictionary or replace the expert by a more “expert” one. Let

Mr. Lillie try the glossaries of the Moravian Brothers and their alphabets. I am

afraid he is ruining terribly his reputation as an Orientalist. Indeed, before

this controversy is settled he may leave in it the last shreds of his supposed

Oriental learning.


Lest Mr. Lillie should take my omitting to answer a single one of his very

indiscreet questions as a new pretext for printing some impertinence, I say: I

was at Mentana during the battle in October, 1867, and left Italy in November of

the same year for India. Whether I was sent there, or found myself there by

accident, are questions that pertain to my private life, with which, it appears

to me, Mr. Lillie has no concern. But this is on a par with his other ways of

dealing with his opponents.


Mr. Lillie’s other sarcasms touch me very little, for I know their value. I may let them pass without any further notice. Some persons have an extraordinarily clever way of avoiding an embarrassing position by trying to place their antagonists in the same situation. For instance, Mr. Lillie could not answer the criticisms made on his Buddha and Early Buddhism in The Theosophist, nor has he ever attempted to do so. But he applied himself instead to collect every vile rumour and idle gossip about me, its editor.


Why does he not show, to begin with, that his reviewer was wrong? Why does he not, by contradicting our statements, firmly establish his own authority as an

Orientalist, showing first of all that lie is a genuine scholar, who knows the

subject he is talking about, before he allows himself to deny and contradict

other people’s statements in matters which he knows still less about? He does

nothing of the kind, however—not a word, not a mention of the scourging

criticism that he is unable to relute. Instead of that, one finds the offended

author trying to throw ridicule on his reviewers, probably so as to lessen the

value of what they have to say of his own book. This is clever, very clever

strategy—whether it is equally honourable remains, withal, an open question.


It might be difficult, after the conclusions reached by qualified scholars

in India concerning his first book, to secure much attention in The Theosophist

for his second, but if this volume in turn were examined with the care almost

undeservedly devoted to the first, and if it were referred to the authority of

such real Oriental scholars and Sanskritists as Mr. R. T. H. Griffith, for

instance, I think it would be found that the aggregate blundering of the two

books put together might excite even as much amusement as the singular

complacency with which the author betrays himself to the public.




August 3rd, 1884.




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